Does Soundcloud Pro Give You Better Upload Quality?

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#359590 - 08/05/16 04:07 AM [Off-Topic] How to get better sound quality over on soundcloud

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When you upload a track to soundcloud, they automatically convert everything to 128K MP3, regardless of what yous upload (fifty-fifty if you upload your own 128K MP3 the file volition nevertheless get through their conversion engine)

Considering of this automatic conversion, they recommend uploading WAV files for best sound quality, which I always do.

In addition to soundcloud I besides upload songs to reverbnation. I just have the gratuitous business relationship on reverbnation, which limits me to uploading 128K MP3s.

So, you would think they would sound the aforementioned, right? soundcloud is playing a 128K MP3 that they generated from a WAV file I sent them, reverbnation is playing the 128K MP3 I sent them.

Just they don't, the file over on reverbnation sounds MUCH better! Has anyone else come across this and figured out how to optimize the file sent to soundcloud so that information technology volition sound amend?


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#359596 - 08/05/16 05:24 AM [Off-Topic] Re: How to get ameliorate audio quality over on soundcloud [Re: BlueAttitude]
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A couple of things to consider....

Sometimes the player used by one site is better or worse than the players on other sites.

If the site runs a compression algorithm, which most practise that convert to 128kbs, that can really spiral with the end result as well. One site, SoundClick, I remember does that. I uploaded a 128kbs and the piano was all phasey sounding. I reloaded information technology with a 320kbs and even though the site inverse it back to 128kbs, the outcome was that the piano was no longer phasey but sounded squeamish and crisp. So the lesson is to upload the highest quality mp3 that the site will allow.

Some have file size limits which by their nature can force yous to reduce the resolution from 320kbs to something more compressed simply to go it in under the 10MB limit. At 320kbs, I think the length of the song that volition fit is somewhere around four minutes.

Apply a site similar Box and they play exactly what you upload without any file size limit, conversion or pinch on their role. Y'all can load wave files if you wish and they will stream.

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#359618 - 08/05/16 08:01 AM [Off-Topic] Re: How to get ameliorate sound quality over on soundcloud [Re: Guitarhacker]

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And then the lesson is to upload the highest quality mp3 that the site will allow.

This is what I practice. I gave upwardly long ago trying to mix for a specific site (or radio airplay).

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#359621 - 08/05/16 08:18 AM [Off-Topic] Re: How to get ameliorate sound quality over on soundcloud [Re: Matt Finley]

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So the lesson is to upload the highest quality mp3 that the site volition allow.

This is what I do. I gave up long agone trying to mix for a specific site (or radio airplay).

Well, as I mentioned in the original post I am actually uploading WAV files to soundcloud, which they then convert to 128K mp3. This should in theory give the all-time possible upshot.

I did some research after I posted, lots of complaints over on the soundcloud forums almost the poor playback quality there, going back a few years. Not a big deal, I'll simply start using reverbnation more for uploads.


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#359625 - 08/05/16 08:32 AM [Off-Topic] Re: How to go better sound quality over on soundcloud [Re: BlueAttitude]

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FWIW - an article addressing this give-and-take:

https://www.justmastering.com/article-mixingformp3.php

And hither's what Izotope has to say about it:

Mastering for SoundCloud

SoundCloud transcodes uploaded audio to 128 kbps MP3 to prepare the audio to stream from the site. If an sound file on SoundCloud is made bachelor for download, the downloaded version will be in the original format.

Uploading an MP3 is redundant since SoundCloud will transcode it anyway, which could in plough introduce more artifacts to audio that's already compressed. Therefore, the best practise is to upload an uncompressed, 24-scrap .WAV file and permit SoundCloud to process it.

Here are some recommended settings when mastering audio for SoundCloud:

Utilize a True Summit limiter, such equally Ozone vi, to ensure that the margin is set to –0.3 dBFS. This is an acceptable threshold to mitigate most of the clipping that occurs during the encoding process. However, depending on the source material, you may notice a margin of –0.5, –0.7, –1.0, or –1.5 dBFS sounds better, with less baloney. In these cases, you lot simply take to perform trial and error, perhaps by uploading several versions and deleting all only the best sounding ane.

SoundCloud does not have a characteristic like Apple's SoundCheck, so an audio master destined for SoundCloud has more freedom to raise the overall RMS level for competitive loudness. Consider this a practical and aesthetic pick. Make sure to use volume matching, such as the 'automatically match effective proceeds' feature in Ozone, to evaluate loudness increases objectively.

Using a stereo imaging tool, narrow the high end between 5–20%. 128 kbps MP3 is the lowest commonly acceptable audio quality. As such, a lot of information is lost during encoding and an extremely wide mix is more than susceptible to noticeable artifacts. Ironically, some pre-emptive narrowing can assist avoid perceived loss of free energy and width.


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